Discussion Thread: Dexamethasone and "Fixing" Broken Girls

Recently Alice Dreger and Ellen K. Feder called our attention to a terrible medical malfeasance regarding FGC at Cornell University. They are now, with their colleague Anne Tamar-Mattis, sending up flares about the use of dexamethasone, "a risky Class C steroid," which is apparently being offered (I use the word advisedly) to pregnant women whose female fetuses are suspected of having a form of congenital adrenal hyperplasia, which can result in "ambiguous" or "masculinized" genitalia.

And that's not all:

One group of researchers, however, seems to be suggesting that prenatal dex also might prevent affected girls from turning out to be homosexual or bisexual.

...They specifically point to reasons to believe that it is prenatal androgens that have an impact on the development of sexual orientation. The authors write, "Most women were heterosexual, but the rates of bisexual and homosexual orientation were increased above controls ... and correlated with the degree of prenatal androgenization."

...And it isn't just that many women with CAH have a lower interest, compared to other women, in having sex with men. In another paper entitled "What Causes Low Rates of Child-Bearing in Congenital Adrenal Hyperplasia?" Meyer-Bahlburg writes that "CAH women as a group have a lower interest than controls in getting married and performing the traditional child-care/housewife role. As children, they show an unusually low interest in engaging in maternal play with baby dolls, and their interest in caring for infants, the frequency of daydreams or fantasies of pregnancy and motherhood, or the expressed wish of experiencing pregnancy and having children of their own appear to be relatively low in all age groups."

In the same article, Meyer-Bahlburg suggests that treatments with prenatal dexamethasone might cause these girls' behavior to be closer to the expectation of heterosexual norms: "Long term follow-up studies of the behavioral outcome will show whether dexamethasone treatment also prevents the effects of prenatal androgens on brain and behavior."
Further, these women might have a disproportionate and "abnormal" interest in "men's occupations and games." The authors of this piece note the irony of "one of the first women pediatric endocrinologists and a member of the National Academy of Sciences constructing women who go into 'men's' fields as 'abnormal'," and conclude the article thus:
Needless to say, we do not think it reasonable or just to use medicine to try to prevent homosexual and bisexual orientations. Nor do we think it reasonable to use medicine to prevent uppity women, like the sort who might raise just these kinds of alarms. Consider that our declaration of our conflict of interest.
Suffice it to say, for my part, I share their contempt.

A couple of brief notes:

1. I feel obliged to point out that there's no objective reason to solve the "problem(s)" of atypical genitals, bi- or homosexuality, women who are single and/or childless by choice, or in some other way deviate from the kyriarchal narratives of what "normal womanhood" should look like. It is because of our rigid heteronormative gender binary, and the prejudices that arise therefrom, that these things are "problems," but the privileges we confer are arbitrary, based on collective inventions, and they can be changed. It is enormously frustrating when scientists treat natural variation as a problem to be solved, and necessarily deny humans' capacity for ideological adaptation in order to sustain that pretense.

2. Similarly frustrating is the discordance in which Alice Dreger could be so right on calling out this shit, and yet so wrong in defending J. Michael Bailey's transsexual dichotomy theories as merely saying "unpopular things." (Autumn's got more in her archives.) That's not really here nor there in terms of the particular piece being discussed, but it's certainly a failure that needs to be acknowledged in this space.

[H/T to Shaker Tia.]

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Texting! With Liss and Deeky!

Moments ago.

Liss: Is the fucking day over yet?

Deeky: Yeah, pretty much.

Liss: LOL!

Deeky: It's almost five. Fuck this day.

Liss: Seriously. I'm so bored and low-level agitated.

Deeky: You should buy a punching bag.

Liss: I wouldn't even punch it with the mood I'm in. I'd just glower at it with contempt.

Deeky: LOL!

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Daily Dose o' Cute


Dudley, in morning light, last weekend.

Bonus Dudz below the fold.



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Is This What We Call A Backlash?

Today's headlines:

Montana GOP Releases Antigay Platform

Carrie Prejean to Opposite Marry at Prop 8 Supporter's Hotel

R.I. Gov Vetoes Hate-Crimes Bill

NH GOP Congressional Candidate Bob Giuda Compares Gay Marriage to Marrying 'Men and Sheep', 'Women and Dogs'

Australian PM Repeats Gay Marriage Opposition

Wisconsin Supreme Court Votes 7-0 to Uphold Ban on Gay Marriage

Income Tax Fairness Stripped from N.Y. Budget Bill

When I was discussing this with Liss earlier, she respoded: "If it's not, it's only because there hasn't been enough forward (ho)momentum in terms of actually legalizing same-sex marriage (as opposed to the surge in public support for it) to justify calling this a backlash. Grumble. Spit. Snarl. It's more like a bunch of bigoted fucks thrashing around desperately in anticipation of losing a battle they were never going to win anyway."

Yeah, that about says it all.

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Today's Edition of "Conniving and Sinister"



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See Deeky's archive of all previous Conniving & Sinister strips here.

[In which Liss reimagines the long-running comic "Frank & Ernest," about two old straight white guys "telling it like it is," as a fat feminist white woman (Liss) and a biracial queerbait (Deeky) telling it like it actually is from their perspectives. Hilarity ensues.]

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Shaker Help Request

Shaker M emails:

I have a question that I was wondering if you could answer or post on Shakesville. I have this amazing, wonderful, sensitive little boy - he's 8 - who had a great teacher this last year who led him to really develop his commitment to the environment. (We have a rockin' elementary school.)

Anyway, yesterday afternoon my husband came in from work and he and I began updating each other on the latest awful things we'd heard about the oil volcano in the Gulf of Mexico. My little boy was in the kitchen, reading at the counter, and a few minutes later I realized he was absolutely weeping. I went to ask him what was wrong and saw that he was also shaking like a leaf... anyway, he finally managed to tell me, "I'm scared of the oil spill." I felt dreadful for frightening him so. The only thing that made him feel better at all was when I told him we could try to donate money or time or whatever to an organization working to fight / contain / negate the disaster... we live in New Mexico, so we probably can't help clean oily birds.

So, as a reader of your blog, it struck me that you or members of your community might have suggestions about concrete ways we can help. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated, and make my little guy a bit less scared.
Have at it, Shakers!

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13-Year-Old Girl Humiliated for Being Insufficiently USian

In an increasingly familiar fit of the nationalistic racism I'll call Illegal Alarmism, a 13-year-old US citizen of Mexican heritage was marched in front of her class and accused of being an undocumented immigrant by her teacher for wearing a Team Mexico football shirt.

[Diana Aviles] said the teacher singled out her daughter in front of the class and accused of her being an illegal immigrant while the girl was wearing the shirt for the World Cup soccer tournament.

"Basically, she put her down in front of the whole class," Aviles said Thursday.

Aviles said she and her daughter are U.S. citizens. The teacher later apologized.
Hmm. I wonder if she would have apologized if the girl had been an undocumented immigrant—because what the teacher did wouldn't have been acceptable even if she hadn't been denying her student's citizenry. (For a whole lot of reasons, not least of which is that a 13-year-old doesn't become an undocumented immigrant by her own design.)

And, in addition to wondering why anyone would ever try to turn someone's immigration status into an insult, as if the rest of us have some choice over where we're born and what opportunities we're given, I also wonder why the fuck anyone who holds such an absurd opinion and works in the public sector serving children, among whom might be undocumented immigrants or the children of undocumented immigrants, would express that view as if it has any business existing outside the confines of an impenetrably bigoted head.
Aviles said her family visits an orphanage in Mexico, and so they bought a "Mexico" shirt. The family also tried to buy a "USA" shirt, but none were available, she said.
I just feel bad that she even had to say this, as if there would be something wrong with wanting a football strip other than Team USA's. Iain—who, rest assured, has proven his sufficient USianness by purchasing a Team USA jersey already—has commented several times that he likes the strips of other countries as we watch World Cup matches. If they weren't ridiculously expensive, he'd no doubt have jerseys from all over the world.

Which, frankly, strikes me as way more "American" (fist-bump the melting pot!) than humiliating a child, no less erroneously so, for the grievous sin of not having been born here.

[H/T to Shaker Maria, who notes: "If you value your sanity/faith in humanity, don't read the comments. However, if you read Spanish, it's worth glancing through the comments on the Spanish-language version of the story, if only because the contrast is amusing."]

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Wednesday Blogaround

This blogaround brought to you by Shaxco, makers of Deeky's Giant Gardening Gloves.

Recommended Reading:

Curgoth: Authoritarian Apologism and the Logical Fallacy [TW for reference to rape]

Cara: Scotland Anti-Rape Ad Tackles "She Was Asking For It" Myth [TW for rape]

Lesley: Huge, Episode 1: Goonies never say die. [TW for discussions of disordered eating]

Resistance: Freedom for...?

Shark-fu: Pondering Opposition...

Tigtog: Climbing Uluru and Disrespect

Andy: Australia's New Prime Minister Confirms She's Against Gay Marriage

Leave your links in comments...

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If It's Tuesday, It's Zamfir!

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Deadly Violence at San Francisco Pride

[Trigger warning for violent homophobia.]

In a development in a story that isn't getting much national media attention for reasons I can't imagine (ahem), Ed Perkins, the man who was arrested on suspicion of firing seven shots into a crowd Saturday night at a San Francisco Pride event, killing 19-year-old Stephen Powell and injuring two others, has been released after investigators determined that "none of the seven shots fired into the crowd were from Perkins' weapon, and no witnesses were able to put Perkins at the scene," even though he was only in custody because "he was found near the crime scene in possession of a .357-caliber revolver."

(Of course, we all know that "near the crime scene" has a different definition when the suspect is a man of color, which could explain the seeming discrepancy.)

Earlier, police had believed Perkins to be one of at least two people involved, which was underlined by two more people being shot at the vigil for the first victim. But now police have released Perkins and are classifying the follow-up violence as a retaliatory gang shooting.

The picture that's emerging seems to be that Powell was killed (by members of his gang? a rival gang? a homophobic neighbor's or friend's or family member's gang?) for attending a Pride event, and things escalated from there in the way that gang violence tends to do. But at the root of it is this: Someone seems to have killed Stephen Powell because he was, or they believed him to be, gay.

The killer remains free.

[H/T to Cait.]

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Sometimes What You Really Need Is a Potahto

Do you think Sens. Tom Coburn and Mitch McConnell have yellow ribbons on their vehicles? I'm sure they would be willing to go to that length to "support our troops" — unless it clashes with the color of their no doubt fine vehicles. Supporting the troops is one thing, but that degree of shared sacrifice is asking a lot of freedom-loving patriots.

But it would require no personal sacrifice on their parts to vote for the Homeless Women Veterans and Homeless Veterans With Children Act (.pdf).

This bill, S. 1237, was originally introduced (with a somewhat different name) by Sen. Patty Murray of Washington on June 11, 2009. It has taken a year to get it through the Committee on Veterans' Affairs and to the full Senate for approval.

Approval which was denied it yesterday by Sen. McConnell, objecting to the unanimous consent for it which Sen. Murray had requested, on behalf of his fellow Republican, Sen. Coburn.

Sen. Coburn, it seems, is concerned. He is concerned about how the government would pay for the services authorized under this bill, especially since he believes the government should be taking in far less revenue. He supports eliminating the Estate Tax. He supports continuing tax reductions for the wealthy enacted during the Bush administration.

In fact, he supports eliminating the federal Income Tax altogether and replacing it with the Fair Tax, a national sales tax under which every U.S. resident, regardless of race, creed, gender — or income — would pay exactly the same amount of tax on things they freely chose to buy. What could be fairer than that?

But even before we reach this utopia in which the rich person stands shoulder-to-shoulder with the poor person in being taxed as equals, we need to cut spending. So we cannot afford the grants to support job training, counseling, child care services and placement services, including job readiness and literacy and skills training, to facilities and programs which provide services dedicated to homeless women veterans and homeless veterans with children, nor the special needs grants to improve their care at VA and other facilities, which Sen. Murray's bill would provide.

In a Senate speech on June 22 urging passage of her bill, Sen. Murray said:

supporting our veterans shouldn’t be about politics—it should be about what kind of country we want the United States to be. And about what our priorities are as a nation.

In his second inaugural address in 1865, President Lincoln said our nation had an obligation to "care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow, and his orphan."

Well, in 2010, I believe we not only need to care for HIM—we need to care for HER. And for his and her families.
This bill is not dead. Sen. Murray has promised to "continue fighting." So, no doubt, will Sen. Coburn.

Some people think politics is irrelevant to their lives, because politicians are all alike. Certainly it can look that way, given the generous capacity for acting in a weaselly and self-serving manner which seems endemic to the species. It's been many a long year since I admired a politician.

That's why it makes sense to me to concentrate on working on behalf of, not politicians or political parties, but specific policies. Politicians are only as useful as the policies they can be induced to support.

Yesterday, Sen. Murray was concerned. Sen. Coburn was concerned. Sen. Mitchell was concerned on Sen. Coburn's behalf, since Sen. Coburn and his concern were evidently required elsewhere.

There was one difference. The senators were not concerned about the same things.

Via

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Two Minute Nostalgia Sublime



Prince: "Kiss"

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The OFFS Awards: Kathleen Parker


With honorable mention to today's runner-up, the Washington Post, who inexplicably continue to pay Kathleen Parker to write this fetid shit:
If Bill Clinton was our first black president, as Toni Morrison once proclaimed, then Barack Obama may be our first woman president.

Phew. That was fun. Now, if you'll just keep those hatchets holstered and hear me out.
Oh my aching sides. The old "don't get violent with me, gender police!" chestnut never stops being heeeeelarious.

The rest of the piece is the usual patented Parker poppycock: Men and women are different in stereotypes whose respective Venn diagrams do not overlap (because one is on Mars and one is on Venus, amirite? HIGH FIVES!), Obama has feminine traits, therefore he's a woman, and women are stupid, which is why he's a failure, and we totes need a Real Woman, namely a conservative one who acts like a man, in that there Oval Office.

Blah blah blah.

Never mind the threadbare gendered analysis and the so-old-they-fart-dust [/spudsy] stereotypes on which it's based; Parker's ridiculous contention that Obama is the first female president isn't even fresh.


Kathleen Parker's column, this jalopy called. It wants its old, tired, and brokedown back.

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Doctor Who Open Thread: S5E10: Vincent and the Doctor

Good $LOCAL_TIME_EXPRESSION, Shakers, and welcome to the Open Thread for (new) Season 5, Episode 10 of Doctor Who: Vincent and the Doctor.

Please be careful to avoid spoilers for upcoming episodes, as many of those in the thread are watching on the North American broadcast schedule, which is running three or four weeks behind the UK's one. Be aware that any and all Doctor Who media appearing before S5E10 are explicitly on-topic, and that there may be spoilers within for any of it.

My take, o my Whonatic friends, on this episode is that it was FRAKKIN' BRILLIANT.

I'll leave more, including spoilers, in the comments.

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NQDTR Discussion Thread – W100630

Hiya, Shakers, past time for another Discussion Thread for the Not Quite Daily Teaspoon Report!

This is the thread in which you may offer congratulations or admiration for a teaspoon or teaspooner. If you're posting with just congrats or admiration, though, do take a moment and check the thread to see whether other people have said so a number of times already. Remember that no one is required to read here just because they posted over there, so there's no guarantee you'll get a response to a given comment.

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The Not Quite Daily Teaspoon Report – W100630

Time for another Teaspoon Report, brought to you by Shaxco...

Leave comments here that describe an act of teaspooning you encountered or committed. They don't have to be big, world-shaking acts; by definition, a teaspoon is a small thing, but enough of them together can empty the ocean.

If you would like to discuss the teaspoons here reported, or even offer congratulations or your admiration to a fellow Shaker, we ask that you do so over here in the Discussion Thread for today's NQDTR.

Shaker bgk has been kind enough to get a Twitter-pated version out there for you young twittersnappers (and by the way, get off my lawn, you meddling kids! *shakes cane*). You can find the details about the Tweetspoons project right here. That runs all the time, as far as I'm aware (*grumblenewtechnologygrumble*), and we encourage you to let other people know that there's at least one tweetstream talking about just going out and doing good things for the human species.

Teaspoons up, let's hear 'em, Shakers!

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I Write Letters

Dear CNN.com:

It's really swell of you to offer a Gay in America section for Pride Month and all, but I was already uncomfortable with how much "Gays—They're Just Like Normal Straight People!" content was comprising the section (although I shouldn't be surprised you don't know how to write about gay families that don't have/want kids, since you don't even really know how to write about straight families that don't have/want kids), and that was before I saw the "Conversation" topic "Gay Couples as Parents?"

First of all, let's talk about the question mark. There are like gerjillions of same-sex couples openly (and frequently uncontroversially) parenting kids in the US already, and have been for decades, with various degrees of legal and cultural support in different locations. And there are gerjillions of adults who have parents who came out later in life, after producing children within an opposite-sex marriage. And there are multiple studies showing that same-sex parents make as good (or better) parents on average as opposite-sex parents, which only exist because researchers have had access to loads of kids with gay parents.

So, gay couples are parents. Period. No question mark required.

But, of course, the reason it's there is because this is a conversation, and you're inviting people to share their opinions on gay parenting. Which is a dubious way of honoring Pride Month in any case, no less when the solicitation of opinions is written in a way that explicitly excludes gay parents (emphasis mine):

How do you feel about gay couples having a family? Should they be allowed to adopt and be foster parents? What if you had a gay member of your family and they decided to have a baby through adoption, surrogacy or sperm donor? How would you react to it? Share your comments below.
These are not questions designed to invite gay parents to share their opinions on gay parenting. These are questions designed to invite straight people to pontificate about a subject that should be none of their fucking business, but is because of the undeserved privilege that is continually reinforced by shit like asking straight people to weigh in on gay parenting in a way that deliberately excludes lesbians and gay men and bisexuals from the conversation.

If the objective was to challenge the marginalization of LGBs, I'm afraid we have a raging case of the megafails here, CNN. If, however, the objective was to engage in the same tired old habit of pandering to the delicate sensibilities of the intractably bigoted, then grab your codpieces and go stand in front of a Mission Accomplished banner on an aircraft carrier, bitchez, 'cuz that shit is solid.

Please do better.

Love,
Liss

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Question of the Day

Where would you like to retire to?

I think, if i had my druthers, when it came to retire, I'd head to Prague. It's European, without being Paris (nothing against Parisians), it's smaller, but not provincial. It's got great architecture, and history and it's run head-on into the modern world. That's sort of typified by this photo I snapped while there:

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You've Done It Again, Bachmann

Award-winning Professor of Smartology and Minnesota Congressperson Michele Bachmann is taking our Treasury Secretary and President to task for their devious plan to embrangle the US in a global economy which is "one short step to joining political unity and then you would have literally, a one world government."

President Obama is trying to bind the United States into a global economy where all of our nations come together in a global economy. I don't want the United States to be in a global economy where, where our economic future is bound to that of Zimbabwe. I can't, we can't necessarily trust the decisions that are being made financially in other countries.
She's so right. Thank Maude that a global economy in which our economy is affected by events outwith our borders doesn't already exist!

Now, about that plan to stop other countries sending us their goddamn weather...

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