Showing posts with label movement atheism. Show all posts
Showing posts with label movement atheism. Show all posts

Shooting at Chapel Hill

[Content Note: Terrorism; guns; death; Islamophobia; anti-religiousness.]

Yesterday at the University of North Carolina in Chapel Hill, 46-year-old Craig Stephen Hicks, a white man who strongly identified with the anti-religious sentiment promoted by leaders of movement atheism and posted anti-religious views on social media, shot and killed three Muslims, husband and wife Deah Barakat, 23, and Yusor Mohammad Abu-Salha, 21, and Yusor's sister Razan Mohammad Abu-Salha. He then turned himself into police.

My sincerest condolences to the family, friends, and colleagues of Deah, Yusor, and Razan.

A couple of notes:

1. This shooting happened around 5:00 ET yesterday. I didn't hear a single thing about it until this morning. Not an alert about an active campus shooter, not a notification about a campus lockdown, not a single news item in any of news sources I check regularly.

2. In the coverage that's finally showing up on mainstream news sites, there is no suggestion that Hicks is a terrorist, despite the fact that he targeted Muslims. Which of course is not surprising, but is enraging: Hicks is white and his victims are Muslim, which flips the script entirely on what constitutes "terrorism" in the United States.

This is how it's being reported at CNN [video may autoplay at link]:

screen cap of CNN story reading: 'A 46-year-old man has been charged with murder in the shooting death of three Muslim students in an apartment near the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill campus. Police haven't said what may have compelled the accused, Craig Stephen Hicks, to allegedly carry out the attack Tuesday evening. He turned himself in to police later in the night. But given the victims' religion and comments the alleged shooter apparently left on a Facebook page, many social media users wondered what role, if any, the victims' faith played.'

"What role, if any, the victims' faith played." As opposed to, you know, what role their killer's hatred and bigotry toward people of their faith played.

That's some smooth-ass victim-blaming, right there.

3. It's amazing how a white man who just murdered three people managed to turn himself into police alive. Good thing he wasn't selling loose cigarettes. Ahem.

4. This should be a day of reckoning for the most visible leaders of movement atheism who routinely engage in hyperbolic anti-Muslim rhetoric. But of course that won't happen. What will happen is that anyone who dares suggest that they are fomenting hatred—and that, although Hicks is accountable for his own actions, they don't exist in a vacuum—will be accused of opportunistic and mendacious attacks, even if they are fellow atheists, like me, who simply refuse to pretend we don't understand how culture works.

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Bill Maher Continues to Be the Worst

[Content Note: Islamophobia; anti-Muslim sentiment; misogyny.]

In a new interview at the Daily Beast, Bill Maher is asked about the segment in which Ben Affleck challenged Maher and Sam Harris on their anti-Muslim sentiment, and his responses are predictably dreadful:

The Ben Affleck episode on Real Time was just great television. On no other show would you see an A-list actor from a newly released blockbuster like Gone Girl getting fired up over Islam. What did you make of that heated exchange? He seemed pretty fired up the moment Sam Harris sat down.

Well, I'm done talking about it. My view is I've said what I had to say about it the week before, when I did a formal monologue at the end of the show that I wrote very carefully, and they were responding to that. I will say that we legitimately started a national debate on something that needs to be talked about, and it's very gratifying to finally see that a heck of a lot of liberals understand that the real liberals in this debate are people like me and Sam.

But when you do make generalizations about Islam…

…It's not a generalization! First of all, this is nonsense—this idea that you can't make generalizations. All of knowledge is based on generalizations. No one can interview all 1.5 billion Muslims in the world. It's a dumb argument. Read any history book and it'll use the word "Christendom," but they didn't interview every Christian in the 1600s. We're talking facts. We're talking polls that have been done over decades, time and time again telling us what people are thinking about the world. So this idea that we are making generalizations? It's just stupid. We understand that 1.5 billion people don't all think alike and that there are differences from country-to-country, but you can't advance any sort of knowledge without making generalizations and it doesn't mean they're inaccurate. To say that it's a widespread belief in the Muslim world that death is the appropriate response to leaving the religion is just a statement of fact. We should stop arguing about that and move on from it and figure out what we can do about it. To dismiss that is just like saying, "Global warming doesn't exist."

If all Muslims are generally bad, then where does five of the last twelve Nobel Peace Prize winners, all of whom are Muslim—people like Malala Yousafzai—fit in?

Man, I'm done talking about this. I just don't want to keep talking about this. I've said my piece, now the rest of you talk about it.
Welp.

There's so much bad thinking here. One of the things I want to reiterate is that Harris and Maher and their supporters are treating the "facts" derived from polling as evidence of potential behavior rather than simply evidence of belief, and those are not the same things.

Neither of them appears to be aware (or maybe they just don't care) that lots of religious people say they believe lots of things when asked in polls about their beliefs that they only support in the abstract and wouldn't support in practice.

Which is a thing that's true of all people, but conservative religious people especially because they tend to lean toward holy text literalism regarding doctrine that tells them to not believe these things is sinful.

So there are a whole lot of people who might say they support X, which would be very extreme in practice, who wouldn't actually support it in practice because it's so extreme.

That skews polls about religious beliefs. Which is why they are spectacularly unreliable in assessing precisely how many religious people would support the actual implementation of extreme beliefs.

There is some number of people who do. But it is likely to be less, sometimes far less, than a poll just asking for abstract support suggests.

That reality, that crucial piece of human nature, makes generalizing about religious beliefs a very stupid thing to do, frankly.

But, I'm not a real liberal like Bill Maher, so.

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Earlier this week, I wrote about Michael Luciano's contention that movement atheism doesn't owe social justice advocates "a damn thing." I noted that movement atheists often invoke the oppression of women and other marginalized people in order to criticize religion, yet then claim they don't have anything to do with social justice.

Maher has routinely invoked misogyny in religion, on his show and in his act and in his film about religion, and yet, in this interview, he accuses former President Bill Clinton of not having fought hard enough for healthcare reform, saying it was "typical pussy Democratic politics."

Further, he talks about having been a fan of Republican Rand Paul, until Paul downplayed global climate change. The fact that Paul is aggressively anti-choice was evidently not an issue for Maher.

It is a bad habit of many movement atheists to pretend as though misogyny (and homophobia and racism) were inventions of religion.

Yesterday, in an email exchange with Aphra_Behn about an article written by a movement atheism taking this very position, I wrote: "You know, I find it really amazing how these Very Smart Guys can totally understand that religious dietary laws were essentially ad hoc rules designed to quickly convince large populations of people not to eat food that was very likely to make them sick at the time the rules were instituted, but consistently fail to understand that the misogyny, homophobia, racism, etc. within religion are, in the same way, post hoc justifications for misogyny, homophobia, racism, etc. that already existed. For fuck's sake. Religion didn't invent misogyny. Religion justified it, and then became a really useful way to transmit it."

I'm an atheist, and I'm no fan of the ways in which religions transmit and legitimize, by virtue of religious privilege, oppression against marginalized people. But I'm also a person who understands that challenging religion is not as useful for eradicating misogyny as challenging misogyny.

And, you know, not engaging in it oneself.

In the end: Just like institutional religion serves, for many people, as a post hoc justification for existing bigotry, movement atheism is clearly serving, for many people, as a post hoc justification for existing bigotry.

Is the hostility toward Muslims we're seeing here, as but one example, really just about religious beliefs documented in polls? I suspect not.

Not when one must ignore the "facts" of how people work in order to use the "facts" about religious polling to justify quoting them in support of harmful generalizations.

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And Then This Happened

[Content Note: Privilege; oppression; appropriation; misogyny; homophobia; racism.]

Oh good grief: "Atheists Don't Owe Your Social Justice Agenda a Damn Thing."

There's a weird trend that's been slinking its way through the social justice community, whereby so-called New Atheists are being denounced for supposedly failing to embrace liberal causes such as diversity and equality. Apparently, atheism has a "race problem," or maybe it should be called a "white male problem." Whichever the case, it appears atheism also has a "shocking woman problem."

...Did I sleep through some radical redefining of the word 'atheist'? It's always been my understanding that an 'atheist' is someone who simply lacks belief in deities. That's it. Somehow, though, it's suddenly incumbent on atheists to take up certain social and political causes, and that's just silly.

It's silly not because equality and diversity aren't worthy causes, but because there's no inherent connection between not believing in god and liberal politics.
1. It's neat how Michael Luciano casually elides the difference between "atheism" and "movement atheism," which are absolutely not the same thing. One is indeed merely the lack of a belief in deities. The other is an ideology, which extends beyond that basic belief. It's cool how movement atheism wants to be a movement when it's convenient, and only wants to be a group of people who share a belief when it's convenient.

2. Here's the thing: Movement atheists—especially but not exclusively straight white male movement atheists—routinely invoke the lives of marginalized people in defense of their anti-religionism.

I cannot count the number of times I've seen womanhood, and hostility toward it in many religious traditions, invoked by male atheists, even at the expense of the reported lived experiences of religious women. I cannot count the number of times I've seen women, or gay/bi men, told outright by straight male movement atheists that they're stupid or self-loathing or deserving of harm for being religious. I cannot count the number of times I've seen a black US Christian told they're practicing the religion imposed on them by slavery.

Movement atheists can't continually invoke our identities and lives (as they see them, viewed through the filter of their Validity Prisms) in order to condemn religion and then reject criticisms on the basis that they don't have a social justice agenda.

It's evidently true that people who are, for example, willing to shame a Muslim woman for wearing a headscarf without listening to that woman about why she might find safety and identity and profound personal meaning in wearing a headscarf, don't actually give a fuck about her. We're all familiar with men who will use the ostensible concern for women to advance agendas that have fuck-all to do with real women's needs and lives.

But as long as movement atheists are going to use marginalized people as justification for their crusade against religion, then they don't get to claim they have nothing to do with social justice. After all, they're pretending to be interested in social justice.

As long as they want to be cultural colonialists and straight white male saviors, then they had better expect there are going to be people—including atheists from marginalized communities—who tell them in no uncertain terms that we don't want to be "saved."

Who call them on their compassion bluff and demand meaningful inclusion instead of rescue.

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Whoooooops

[Content Note: Islamophobia; misogyny.]

As you may have heard, last Friday's Real Time with Bill Maher had an interesting, ahem, segment, during which movement atheist Sam Harris and Bill Maher were engaging in some of their entirely typical Islamophobic generalizations, and actor Ben Affleck called them out on their rank bigotry.

(If you'd like to see the segment, it's here.)

After a few days of Affleck being congratulated for angrily challenging them, Harris has responded, and I'll set aside his embarrassing defenses of his broad characterizations of Muslims, because I don't know that I could even convince someone otherwise who views that shit as acceptable discourse, and because I want to focus on his petulant little tantrum about Affleck's criticism:

I admit that I was a little thrown by Affleck's animosity. I don't know where it came from, because we hadn't met before I joined the panel. And it was clear from our conversation after the show that he is totally unfamiliar with my work. I suspect that among his handlers there is a fan of Glenn Greenwald who prepared him for his appearance by simply telling him that I am a racist and a warmonger.

Whatever the reason, if you watch the full video of our exchange (which actually begins before the above clip), you will see that Affleck was gunning for me from the start. What many viewers probably don't realize is that the mid-show interview is supposed be a protected five-to-seven-minute conversation between Maher and the new guest—and all the panelists know this. To ignore this structure and encroach on this space is a little rude; to jump in with criticism, as Affleck did, is pretty hostile. He tried to land his first blow a mere 90 seconds after I took my seat, before the topic of Islam even came up.

...At one point Affleck sought to cut me off by saying, "Okay, let him [Kristof] talk for a second." As I finished my sentence, he made a gesture of impatience with his hand, suggesting that I had been droning on for ages. Watching this exchange on television (his body language and tone are less clear online), I find Affleck's contempt for me fairly amazing.
So: Affleck is a Glenn Greenwald puppet who couldn't possibly have his own convictions; Affleck was not judging Harris on his actual words, but on hyperbole that Harris is a "racist and warmonger" with which he'd been brainwashed; Affleck's tone was hostile; Affleck was contemptuous of Harris personally, not his ideas.

And worst of all—oh the humanity!—Affleck interrupted Harris to criticize him.

Hey, remember when Sam Harris said this shit a couple of weeks ago?
I also asked Harris at the event why the vast majority of atheists — and many of those who buy his books — are male, a topic which has prompted some to raise questions of sexism in the atheist community...

"I think it may have to do with my person slant as an author, being very critical of bad ideas. This can sound very angry to people. People just don't like to have their ideas criticized. There's something about that critical posture that is to some degree intrinsically male and more attractive to guys than to women," he said. "The atheist variable just has this – it doesn't obviously have this nurturing, coherence-building extra estrogen vibe that you would want by default if you wanted to attract as many women as men."
Oh dear.

Sam Harris, this is what being a woman who is "criticized" looks like. This is what it looks like. This is what it looks like. This is what it looks like.

Having Ben Affleck be righteously angry at me for a couple of minutes would be my best day ever.

But, listen, if it felt bad for you, that's okay. I'm not saying you're not allowed to feel bad. What I'm saying is: Maybe you can keep the garbage about women's delicate constitutions to yourself.

Because if you can't handle Affleck, you really can't handle what this atheist woman deals with every goddamn day.

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An Open Letter to People Who Defended Richard Dawkins for Many Years and Are Now Distancing Themselves from Him with Maximum Haste

[Content Note: Threats; misogyny.]

Dear People Who Defended Richard Dawkins for Many Years and Are Now Distancing Themselves from Him with Maximum Haste:

First of all, I want to say that I'm sorry. It stinks when someone you respect and admire, someone from whom you learned and helped you grow, disappoints you.

Secondly, I want to tell you that if you were among the many, many people who have, over the years, responded to feminist critics of Dawkins by reflexively screaming at us that we're overwrought, hysterical, opportunistic cunts who deserve to be raped and killed, then please let me offer you a massive treasure chest full of fuck yous.

For years, feminists (and others) have been highlighting Dawkins' misogyny, gender essentialism, rape apologia, racism, and disablism (just for a start), and, for years, we have been widely met with derisive dismissals.

Which is my polite euphemism for: Angry emails and tweets riddled with rank misogyny; garbage comments; harassment; name-calling; photoshopped imagery of our public photos; mocking and/or misrepresentative blog posts; mendacious attempts to discredit us; professional attacks; and/or threats of violence.

All because we saw, and called out, the reprehensible attitudes Dawkins has now made so manifest that you cannot possibly continue to ignore it.

And for the iniquity of being right about your hero, before you were ready to see it, you harmed us.

You owe us an apology.

More importantly, you owe us this: Next time there appear feminist critics of an Important Man, instead of reflexively screaming at us that we're overwrought, hysterical, opportunistic cunts who deserve to be raped and killed, or even engaging in the "more civil" variation of invoking classic misogynist silencing tropes or sniffing "I don't see it" from behind a gilded balustrade of claimed objectivity, you could take a moment to consider that maybe we're more sensitive to the red flags of misogyny than you are.

That maybe, just maybe, there's an outside possibility that we're right.

Warmest regards,
Liss

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Why Does Anyone Listen to Richard Dawkins Anymore?

[Content Note: Rape apologia; misogyny; gender essentialism.]

That, of course, is a rhetorical question. People still listen to Richard Dawkins, despite the fact that he is a misogynist, racist, disablist rape apologist (not a comprehensive list), because he is a straight white man who upholds the kyriarchy under the auspices of science and rational thought. He confers the illusion of credible objectivity onto ancient oppressions and indecencies, and allows smug fauxgressives to pretend that their brand of subjugative abuse is superior to the brands justified by belief in deities.

Five days ago, BuzzFeed contributor Mark Oppenheimer published a piece [cn: description of sexual assault] on the misogyny endemic to movement atheism, a subject which has been discussed in this space (and many others) plenty of times. In his piece, Oppenheimer detailed Michael Shermer's alleged sexual assault of Alison Smith—an incident which has been long discussed in skeptic circles.

Smith reports that Shermer invited her for drinks, only to realize "he wasn't drinking them; he was hiding them underneath the table and pretending to drink them. I was drunk. After that, it all gets kind of blurry. I started to walk back to my hotel room, and he followed me and caught up with me." Shermer tricked Smith, then, once she was too inebriated to consent, he steered her back to his hotel room and sexually assaulted her. Other women have reported similar victimization.

Two hours after the piece went live, Richard Dawkins tweeted: "Officer, it's not my fault I was drunk driving. You see, somebody got me drunk."

There are a number of things wrong with that. Suffice it to say: Conflating being a drunk driver with being raped while intoxicated is bullshit.

And not just because it's an aggressive indecent bit of victim-blaming. For someone who prides himself on his splendid reasoning skills, that's a spectacularly poor bit of thinking, too.

Dawkins, however, routinely occupies himself with philosophical discussions on the nature of sexual assault. Just two months ago, for example, he tweeted: "Date rape is bad. Stranger rape at knifepoint is worse. If you think that's an endorsement of date rape, go away and learn how to think."

His expert thinkin' credentials invoked once again, in defense of diminishing the gravity of a crime he's now deemed the exclusive responsibility of its victims.

Naturally, critics of Dawkins' victim-blaming were dismissed as hysterics and reactionaries, blah blah yawn, who don't understand that Richard Dawkins is a feminist ally, blah blah fart.

One day later, another prominent movement atheist, Sam Harris, was profiled in the Washington Post, and the piece ended with this passage:

I also asked Harris at the event why the vast majority of atheists — and many of those who buy his books — are male, a topic which has prompted some to raise questions of sexism in the atheist community. Harris' answer was both silly and then provocative.

It can only be attributed to my "overwhelming lack of sex appeal," he said to huge laughter.

"I think it may have to do with my person slant as an author, being very critical of bad ideas. This can sound very angry to people. People just don't like to have their ideas criticized. There's something about that critical posture that is to some degree intrinsically male and more attractive to guys than to women," he said. "The atheist variable just has this – it doesn't obviously have this nurturing, coherence-building extra estrogen vibe that you would want by default if you wanted to attract as many women as men."
Estrogen vibe. Wow.

Dawkins, naturally, jumped to his defense, accusing critics of Harris' rank misogyny of merely being outraged as clickbait and recommending—I shit you not—professional anti-feminist Christina Hoff Sommers as a solid thinker on the subject.

This is well beyond the criticisms that the most prominent leaders of movement atheism have failed to be sufficiently inclusive. This is one of the most prominent leaders of movement atheism actively defending rapist and misogynists, from even the most basic criticisms.

I note with gales of mirthless laughter that Sam Harris suggests it is women who don't have the constitution for having our ideas criticized.

[Related Reading: This Female Atheist, and Where She Is.]

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And Then This Happened

[Content Note: Privilege; harassment.]

So, a straight white male Christian minister decides to "try" atheism for a year by pretending god doesn't exist (ha ha that is not atheism!), and in a single day, movement atheists raise $19,000 for him.

I love that the justification is "people appreciate that this guy is giving atheism a shot." Sure. Terrific. Give him all the cookies. Meanwhile, definitely continue being hostile to marginalized people who are living their lives every day as atheists, and, if they deign to challenge privilege in movement atheism, harass the fuck out of them.

PERFECT.

"He learned what it's like to be an atheist real fast," said Hemant Mehta, a prominent atheist blogger and schoolteacher in Illinois.

...Mehta said he admired Bell's pluck and sympathized with his plight. Though he had never spoken with the pastor, Mehta set up an online fundraiser for Bell on Tuesday. In just one day, nearly 900 people donated more than $19,000 to help "the pastor giving atheism a try."

"I think more than anything else, people appreciate that this guy is giving atheism a shot," Mehta said. "I mean, he lost three jobs in the span of a week just for saying he was exploring it."
Not for nothing, but some of us who are actually atheists have lost jobs over it. It's sure neat to see Christian privilege even within movement atheism, though.

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UPDATE: Mehta has a post about this fundraiser here, in which he responds to Heina Dadabhoy at Skepchick having asked "why so many atheists have been eager to donate to the fundraiser about Ryan Bell, the pastor giving atheism a try, yet not nearly as enthusiastic to donate to the Women's Leadership Project (WLP), a 'feminist humanist mentoring and civic engagement program in South L.A. serving young women of color.'"

Mehta says: "[W]hy would people give money to Bell—a stranger they don't know—and not, say, a project run by a well-known atheist author that advances Humanism and helps young women? I wish I knew."

Yes, it's a real mystery.

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'Splaining at Victims

[Content Note: Rape]

Richard Carrier has apparently gotten tired of rape victims (including myself) explaining that his no, really, this graphically eroticized description of a rape isn't rape because it's been graphically eroticized post is actually pure rape apologetics, and has decided that the best solution to this problem is to vomit forth a 4,700+ word follow-up post (which follows his original 7,400+ word post) in which he continues to maintain that his judgment of what is and isn't rape is totally his call to make on an Objective Platonic Universal Morality level, and that rape victims who disagree can all go suck eggs because we're all obviously emotional harpies who don't read his genius posts closely enough.

And if that description sounds just a wee bit uncharitable, it's probably because (a) I am a rape survivor who doesn't appreciate having her experiences audited by privileged white men, and (b) I am an anti-rape activist who doesn't appreciate having privileged white men 'splain how all the anti-rape activists are Doin' It Wrong for calling something which is rape rape on the grounds that the Privileged White Man doing the 'splaining thinks that that particular flavor of rape is too erotic to be rape. Which is what I'm getting from Carrier's two posts so far.

So here is a very brief run-down of some of the things wrong with Carrier's latest word salad on rape.

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We Signed The Invitations With Our Most Contempty Ink

[Content Note: Bullying, Ableism, Misogyny] 

Via Skepchick, a UK charity called Entangled Bank Events is hosting a "major science talk" in mid-November with the boast that "It’s never been done before in a venue of this scale." Astute readers will notice that the five headline speakers (Bill Bailey, Richard Fortey, Richard Dawkins, Richard Wiseman, and Quentin Cooper) are all men.

In the helpful FAQ, which includes such questions as "Is the event suitable for children?" and "Is the event accessible to wheelchair users?" and "Are there any opportunities for volunteers?" there originally was also the following question-and-answer (link courtesy of Google cache):

I am a fanatical, misandristic ‘feminist’. May I drone on about the lack of women in the line-up and despatch abusive, bigoted, mis-spelt, ungrammatical missives to the organisers and presenters?

No. Please save your talents for Twitter and Facebook, that is what they are for.

We’re actually very disappointed that none of our female invitees accepted, but that is just how it was. As scientists we have no choice but to accept reality. Wanting something to be otherwise does not make it so.
Apparently enough people pointed out that this wasn't particularly cute such that Entangled Bank Events got nervous and deleted the whole question-and-answer, and then enough people pointed out that the internet doesn't work that way such that Entangled Bank Events decided to clarify with this non-pology:
Why are there no women on the panel?

We tried. We failed. The event was set up at short notice and as it happened, of all the excellent people we approached the only ones available on the day were men. We knew this wasn’t ideal and questions would be asked, so we tried to make a joke about it.

We tried. We failed. Should have been spotted by us, but as soon as our attention was drawn to it – via Twitter – we removed it. That only added to the confusion as some people saw the reactions without always knowing what was being reacted to.

So, sorry. It’s not through lack of effort the line-up is wide-ranging in the nature of their brilliance but entirely mono-gendered, but it is our fault the attempt at levity about it fell flat. And we do appreciate the efforts of all those who drew our attention to the error.
Oh, if only the lady-internets weren't so humorless!

The thing that makes me laugh the most bitterly about all this is that an event which is ostensibly supposed to be about science and skepticism and understanding things is trying to deflect criticize by seriously claiming ("As scientists we have no choice but to accept reality. Wanting something to be otherwise does not make it so.") that scientists are helpless in the face of magical forces they cannot hope to comprehend, and that they are utterly unable to effect a change in the world, nor can they study and understand the causes of things in order to alter that which is into that which is desired. Science! It's apparently just like a straw-religion where the only action available to its followers is to cower in terror at the harsh immutability of a cruel, unchangeable reality.

The thing that makes me saddest about all this is that the (understandable) attention on this shitwipe of a "joke" (and note that "it was only a joke!" is the rallying call of all bullies everywhere) means that we necessarily have to spend less attention on asking genuinely probing questions about how the event miraculously ended up with only male speakers. Questions like "How many women did you invite to this event?" and "Did you ask the women who turned you down why they wouldn't attend or did you just assume there was a calendar conflict?" and "Was your pool of available lady speakers narrowed by one or more male speakers maintaining a blacklist against specific- and/or feminist- lady skeptics?"

The thing that makes me the angriest about this is that lady science-skeptic-atheist speakers are not stupid. There is no way, no plausible way, that an organization which would write the above "joke" and subsequent non-pology just picked up its misogynist coat of many colors after all the awesome lady invitees turned down their rainbow-scented invitations with outpourings of regret and much fist-shaking at their cluttered calendars. I will bet my hat that the invitations were just as whiffy with woman-hating as their FAQ.

And I will further bet my best shoes that the invitations in no way addressed the kinds of things which lady speakers tend to care about, like "Also, here is our anti-harassment policy" or "Though you will be sharing a stage with Richard Dawkins, we promise not to let him vent racism and sexism at you" or "Seriously, we are going to do our best to make sure Richard Dawkins doesn't start a grudge campaign against you". You know, the sorts of things that lady speakers might genuinely want to know about in advance when trying to decide whether to make room on their calendars for a scaled venue of bigness.

But this leads me to a larger point: Let's presupposed that Entangled Bank Events asked hundreds of lady speakers to their event, and asked in the nicest possible way with gift baskets of kittens and a 50-page paper on all the ways that Entangled Bank Events will make sure that the lady speakers have only a lovely time and aren't in any way harassed or harmed or heckled by their fellow speakers or their fellow speakers' fans. And let's presuppose that all those lady speakers still turned the event down, not because Entangled Bank Events wrote their invitations wrong or failed to anticipate basic needs. The onus would still be on Entangled Bank Events to ask themselves (and the lady speakers) why that is, and to then fix those issues.

Even if it's nothing more than a simple calendar conflict (HA HA NO), and somehow some of the biggest male names in science-skepticism-atheism were free, but absolutely none of the lady names in etc. etc. were free, then that's still a problem that Entangled Bank Events needs to seriously address as opposed to flinging their hands in the air and saying OH WELL in a sing-songy voice. Because diversity in your convention speakers is more than just a nice-to-have thing, up there with getting a caterer who offers the really snazzy double chocolate chunk cookies in addition to the crumbly sugar ones. Diversity in your "all proceeds go to charities and to scientific research and education" is kind of important in the sense that you're overlooking huge portions of humanity with your supposedly charitable outreach.

And overlooking huge portions of humanity is in itself is bad enough. But doing it while painting people who might object as hateful and mentally ill merely for objecting to their own exclusion is bullying, plain and simple.

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The Assembly: Atheist Churches Coming to a City Near You (Maybe. Depending on Where You Live.)

[Content Note: Abuse; religious supremacy.]

Welp:

Organized Atheism is now a franchise.

Yesterday, The Sunday Assembly—the London-based "Atheist Church" that has, since its January launch, been stealing headlines the world over—announced a new "global missionary tour." In October and November, affiliated Sunday Assemblies will open in 22 cities: in England, Ireland, Scotland, Canada, the United States and Australia. "I think this is the moment," Assembly founder Sanderson Jones told me in an email last week, "when the Sunday Assembly goes from being an interesting phenomenon to becoming a truly global movement." Structured godlessness is ready for export.

The Assembly has come a long way in eight months: from scrappy East London community venture (motto: "Live Better, Help Often and Wonder More;" method: "part atheist church, part foot-stomping good time") to the kind of organization that sends out embargoed press releases about global expansion projects. "The 3,000 percent growth rate might make this non-religious Assembly the fastest growing church in the world," organizers boast.

There's more to come: In October, the Sunday Assembly (SA) will launch a crowdfunded indiegogo campaign, with the ambitious goal of raising £500,000 (or, about $793,000). This will be followed by a second wave of openings. The effort reads as part quixotic hipster start-up, part Southern megachurch.

...As of now, Jones is still tweaking the message. But he's confident in the model: "It's a way to scale goodness."
Aaaaaaaand I already have a problem with your atheist church, Mr. Jones. Believing one has the market cornered on "goodness" is one of the biggest problems with organized religion. That belief abets abuse; it inherently others; it underwrites the sort of judgment that is not based on the assessment of individual actions, but on statements of religious belief.

I am an atheist, and I do not believe that atheism has the market cornered on "goodness." Not because I believe some faulty religious logic about humans needing god(s) to be decent, but because I pay attention to movement atheism. Which is not universally "good," as it turns out.

This is not the only problem I have with the Assembly:
As the atheist church becomes more church-like, however, it seems to be deliberately downplaying its atheism. Where the Assembly once stridently rejected theism (at April's Assembly, Jones poked fun at the crucifixion), it is now far more equivocal. "How atheist should our Assembly be?", Jones wrote in a recent blog post. "The short answer to that is: not very."

"'Atheist Church' as a phrase has been good to us. It has got us publicity," Evans elaborated. "But the term 'atheist' does hold negative connotations. Atheists are often thought to be aggressive, loud and damning of all religion, where actually most atheists, in the UK anyway, are not defined by their non-belief." At a recent assembly, Jones opined: "I think atheism is boring. Why are we defining ourselves by something we don't believe in?"
Katie Engelhart, who wrote the quoted piece, rhetorically asks in response: "Because that's what atheism is?" Which: Yeah. An atheist church who wants me to downplay my atheism in deference to the religious supremacists who believe I can't possibly be a moral person, I can't possibly have values or faith, without god-belief? Fuck that.

I don't have to "define myself" by my atheism to believe unreservedly that it is nothing of which to be ashamed.

Then again, I'm not building a business. And churches, atheist or otherwise, might not like to think of themselves as businesses, but they're businesses all the same. And that inevitably affects the message. Which is another things churches aren't too keen to admit, even when the Pope himself will make messaging recommendations to improve the PR of his business.

Anyway. I get the urge behind the Assembly. Especially in large parts of the US, like in the small towns in which the Assembly isn't yet targeting, where social life resolves around churches, it might be nice to have some sort of equivalent if you're an atheist. (Of course, those also tend to be the most dangerous places to identify oneself as an atheist.) It might be nice to have a ready-made community of like-minded people if you move to a new town. Etc. I get the social aspect of it.

I don't imagine anyone here needs me to elaborate on my resounding desire to build beloved community.

But god-belief isn't the only problem with religious churches. And it looks to me like some of the problems of a lot of religious institutions are already being replicated. Whooooooooops.

If the Assembly Atheist Church is your thing, I am genuinely happy for you! But it is definitely not for me. No thanks!

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Auditing Victims' Experiences

[Content Note: Sexual violence; rape apologia; auditing experiences]

Here is something that I should not have to say and yet apparently must be said: A disclosure that someone is a survivor of sexual violence is not an invitation for others to decide how that experience did (or did not) cause them to change. Nor is it an invitation for others to decide how that experience should (or should not) cause them to change. In short, a disclosure that someone is a survivor of sexual violence is not an invitation for others to audit their experiences for them.

When Richard Dawkins announced this week, speaking of his childhood molester (and inappropriately speculating on behalf of those of his peers who were also abused by the same man), that “I don’t think he did any of us lasting harm”, atheist blogger PZ Myers chose to respond by saying this:

I can think of some lasting harm: he seems to have developed a callous indifference to the sexual abuse of children. 
I know of only two ways to take this statement. One is to read it as a straight-up no-kidding seriously-meant armchair-psychiatrist-diagnosis suggestion that Richard Dawkins is a rape apologist as a direct result of being molested as a child. The other is to read this as a grossly unfunny "joke" where the punchline is that Richard Dawkins is a rape apologist as a direct result of being molested as a child.

I neither know nor care whether PZ Myers meant the statement in seriousness or in jest. The suggestion, whether serious or satirical, that Richard Dawkins is engaging in rape apologism not because lots of people engage in rape apologism in order to entrench their own social privilege nor because lots of people engage in rape apologism because they were indoctrinated into rape culture from an early age nor because lots of people engage in rape apologism for the vast, wide, varied, multiplicity of reasons why lots of people engage in rape apologism, but rather that he is doing so manifestly because he is a victim of sexual abuse is a truly odious and deeply harmful suggestion to make.

It is a suggestion which harms survivors of sexual violence in order to take pot-shots at a rape apologist not because his rape apologies are rank and disgusting, but because he himself is a victim of sexual violence. It is a suggestion which is born out of, and which upholds firmly, a Rape Culture which demands that all victims of sexual violence must react in the "right" ways (or else you weren't really abused) and which suggests that all victims of sexual violence are changed -- or, to use the language of rape culture, damaged -- in the "right" ways (or else you weren't really abused), and which then deliberately uses that enforced framework as an excuse to dismiss victims of sexual violence as overly-emotional, fundamentally-damaged people who shouldn't be listened to.

Survivors of sexual violence are not a monolith. Some of us may react to our victimization with one or more emotions; some of us may not feel a strong response or an emotional reaction to our experiences with sexual violence. Some of us may have differing reactions to our victimization at different times; some of us may maintain the same unwavering reaction to our experiences for our entire life. Some of us may feel changed by our victimization; some of us may feel unchanged by our experiences with sexual violence. Some of us may label all or part of some felt change as negative or harmful; some of us may label all or part of some felt change with positive connotations. There is no right or correct or standard way to react or respond or change or not-change as a result of sexual victimization.

It is wholly and completely up to the survivor of sexual violence to decide how, if at all, hir experiences with sexual violence have affected hir. Which is one of the many, many reasons why a disclosure that someone is a survivor of sexual violence is not an invitation for others to audit their experiences for them.

Richard Dawkins is a rape apologist, but it is not our place to assume or guess or joke or psychoanalyze from afar that he is a rape apologist because he is a victim of sexual violence. And just as Richard Dawkins is wrong to assert that his peers weren't harmed (because it is their right to determine whether they were or not), it is equally wrong for others to assert that Richard Dawkins was harmed when he says he wasn't, because it is his right to decide whether he was harmed or not.

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Rape Apologia Is Not a PR Problem

[CN for the post and linked pieces: rape, rape apologia, rape culture, judicial malfeasance, suicide, mental illness.]

Rape apologia is not a PR problem. Rape is not a PR problem. Sexual harassment is not a PR problem. And so on, and so forth.

It is really pretty simple. Oppression is a problem because it harms the oppressed person or people. Not because it makes an individual or group sound bad.

But apparently, this is not as self-evident as I thought. Over at Daylight Atheism, Adam Lee is appalled by Richard Dawkins' recent rape-ranking remarks (good), but then proceeds to frame his own response primarily around the harm Dawkins is doing to the reputation of atheists:

...Even if we atheists were determined to be charitable in our interpretation, we can be sure that Dawkins’ many enemies won’t be, and will use these remarks to paint both him and the larger atheist movement in a poor light, or to deflect attention from their own moral failings. As I said on Twitter, the next time a priestly pedophilia story breaks, we can be almost certain that some Catholic apologist will say, “This is no big deal, and you’re just trying to exaggerate how serious it is to embarrass the church. See, even Richard Dawkins says it’s not always so bad!”

He also has some advice for Dawkins:

When you’re under scrutiny by people who are eager for you to make a mistake, it’s vital to carefully weigh your remarks so as not to speak in ways that can easily be used against you. Dawkins doesn’t seem to understand this, and it speaks poorly of him that he keeps committing these unforced errors. I have no explanation for why he can’t see that he’s harming not just his own reputation, but the entire secular movement that, for better or for worse, he’s widely assumed to speak on behalf of.

WHAT THE EVERLASTING FUCK.

No. The fact that Dawkins "keeps "committing these unforced errors" is not what "speaks poorly of him." Perpetuating rape apologia speaks poorly of him.

It's not that I don't sympathize with members of a marginalized group cringing at a prominent member's oppressive remarks. It's shitty when the world, the media, or whomever, judges an entire group by the words or actions of one well-known asshole; that judgement is, predictably, far harsher for atheists, people of colour, LGBT*Q folk, women, and all those in groups already under the thumb of kyriarchy. But when you centre PR, you further marginalize survivors.

If you want to be an ally, encourage others to allyship, and support those in your group who are survivors, then it's simple. BE AN ALLY. Understand that being an ally is a continuous process, not a fixed state. Keep working at it, always, and understand that there will be fuckups. Don't assume you've mastered everything, don't seek cookies, and most of all, don't further the oppression you are trying to condemn.

For example, when you're writing about Dawkins' despicable rape-ranking and auditing of survivors' responses, you should probably not write shit like this:

I’d agree that not all cases of child abuse are equally harmful, and that there should be degrees of punishment depending on the circumstances. For example, consensual sex between a teenager and an adult, like a teacher, shouldn’t be punished with the same severity as the violent rape of a child.

But again, like the last time, he’s managed to couch this point in probably the worst possible way....

See that? See what you did there, Adam? YOU JUST RANKED RAPES. You blew off age differences. You blew off power differentials. You blew off a million different factors that may affect the survivor. You assumed that you could make broad judgements about the degree of harm done based on a few mechanical facts about the act, rather than on the perspective of the survivor.

This is not incidental; it enables the Lolita narrative that remains a huge problem in our rape culture. Otherwise, judges wouldn't sentence 54 year old teachers to 30 days for raping a 14 year old student (a student who, in this case, committed suicide, a pretty good indicator of the tremendous harm done). The judge ranked this particular rape by saying that the student exercised "some control" in the situation and "It was not a violent, forcible, beat-the-victim rape, like you see in the movies." That's rape apologia in action. Need more to get the point? Then read this piece by Emily about the harm done to her by men who had "consensual sex" with her 13 year old self.

The problem is not how Dawkins couched his point. The problem IS his point. (If that's not clear to you, then this is a time to put some conscious work into the continuing process of allyship.) Rape-ranking harms survivors, putting their experiences through someone else's Validity Prism. It enables more rapes, by signaling that there is some objective rubric to judge the harm based solely on the mechanics of the crime, not the impact on the survivor. The fallacious assertion that other people are in the best position to judge a survivor's experience is not a bad way of making a good point. It is a bad way of making a garbage point. It is not a PR problem. It is another stone, strengthening the foundations of rape culture.

[With thanks to Liss and Ana for input.]

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Dawkins Defends Himself with More Rape Apologia

[Content Note: Sexual violence; rape apologia.]

image of a tweet authored by Richard Dawkins reading: 'If anybody seriously believed that I
[Tweet links to this piece at Dawkins' site.]

So I read it, as requested. It includes:
Now, given the terrible, persistent and recurrent traumas suffered by other people when abused as children, week after week, year after year, what should I have said about my own thirty seconds of nastiness back in the 1950s? Should I have lied and said it was the worst thing that ever happened to me? Should I have mendaciously sought the sympathy due to a victim who had truly been damaged for the rest of his life? Should I have named the offending teacher and called down posthumous disgrace upon his head?

No, no and no. To have done so would have been to belittle and insult those many people whose lives really were blighted and cursed, perhaps by year-upon-year of abuse by a father or other person who was deeply important in their life. To have done so would have invited the justifiably indignant response: "How dare you make a fuss about the mere half minute of gagging unpleasantness that happened to you only once, and where the perpetrator was not your own father but a teacher who meant nothing special to you in your life. Stop playing the victim. Stop trying to upstage those who really were tragic victims in their own situations. Don't cry wolf about your own bad experience, because it undermines those whose experience was – and remains – so much worse."

That is why I made light of my own bad experience. To excuse pedophiliac assaults in general, or to make light of the horrific experiences of others, was a thousand miles from my intention.
As I noted in my previous piece, the auditing and ranking of survivors of sexual violence and/or the auditing and ranking of various acts of sexual violence itself is rape apologia. The intent of the person engaging in it is irrelevant: Auditing and ranking survivors and acts of sexual violence functions to suggest that some acts of sexual violence are tolerable, and, further, that if a survivor of the "not as bad" sort of sexual violence has lasting psychic injury from that trauma, they are "overreacting." Accusing survivors of abuse of being attention-seeking, melodramatic, lying is a centerpiece of silencing victims.

Dawkins is feeding into these narratives, regardless of the claim that rape apologia "was a thousand miles from [his] intention."

To not do so would not require him to lie, to say that being molested was the worst thing that ever happened to him, to mendaciously seek sympathy, or to name his abuser. It simply would require him to make a minimal effort to not universalize his experience.

At the end of his piece, he writes, regarding his assertion that none of his classmates who were abused in the same way by the same person suffered lasting harm:
If I am wrong about any particular individual; if any of my companions really was traumatised by the abuse long after it happened; if, perhaps it happened many times and amounted to more than the single disagreeable but brief fondling that I endured, I apologise.
Never mind the tacit suggestion that only someone among his peers who suffered more abuse could be acceptably traumatized; he fails utterly to address the implicit shaming of any person, anywhere, who experienced similar abuse and might regard it as rather something more than "thirty seconds of nastiness."

For many survivors of sexual abuse, lasting trauma is defined not by the actual acts, not by their quality or quantity, but by the support they receive following the abuse. Dawkins notes that, as soon as he got away from his abuser, "I ran to tell my friends, many of whom had had the same experience with him." He may not recognize that as a crucial point in his not suffering lasting harm, but the fact that he immediately found support among peers who validated his experience, who neither shamed him nor called him a liar, and the fact that, years later, they would still speak to one another about the abuse after the abuser died, is an invaluable resource to a survivor, which many of us do not have.

To the contrary, many survivors of sexual abuse are silenced and neglected and shamed by the very people who are meant to support and protect us.

The profound feelings of unsafety engendered by being failed in this way after surviving sexual violence is, for a number of survivors, equally or even more traumatic than the abuse itself.

And instead of drawing reasonable and sensitive and decent and helpful comparisons between his survival experience, and those of survivors who did not have access to support, he draws unhelpful comparisons between "levels" of sexual violence, suggesting that only those who suffer abuse at some arbitrary level of intensity or duration might be reasonably traumatized.

I cannot speak for any survivor other than myself, but, as a person who did experience sustained sexual violence at a young age, "year-upon-year of abuse by a...person who was deeply important in [my] life," I would not "indignantly respond" in the way Dawkins suggests, were anyone who did experience lasting harm from any act(s) of sexual abuse to publicly acknowledge that harm.

I would not say: How dare you. I would not audit the importance of the abuser in a survivor's life. I would not accuse someone of "playing the victim." I would not accuse anyone of trying to "upstage" other survivors. I would not accuse someone of crying wolf. I would not ever, ever, tell another survivor that hir experience of assault was better or worse than mine.

Because all of those things act in service to the rape culture—which sustains and thrives in a space where some victims don't matter.

I have been involved in anti-rape advocacy for a very long time now, and, while in this infinite universe some survivor somewhere has certainly told another survivor that their abuse doesn't matter, I haven't seen that happen. I have, however, seen an awful lot of rape apologists engaging in "rape ranking" and telling victims that their abuse, whatever it is, doesn't warrant whatever lasting trauma they report.

In fact, I recall Richard Dawkins greeting Rebecca Watson's report of sexual harassment with precisely that strategy.

Sexual violence does not exist as a series of unrelated abuses that act in competition with one another for attention and concern, but as a spectrum of abuse on which exists both women being creeped on in elevators by strangers and rapes so brutal their victims do not survive.

The implication that there are survivors of sexual violence who have no reason or right to "complain" as long as there are survivors who have experienced something "worse" somewhere in the world not only elides that post-abuse support profoundly affects trauma prognoses, but also creates a justification for ignoring all but only the "worst" manifestations of sexual violence, which necessarily means neglecting survivors in a way that makes them vulnerable to further trauma.

"Rape ranking" is not a neutral position: It is active rape apologia that harms survivors and abets predators.

Dawkins may have been aiming for "a thousand miles" away from minimizing sexual violence, but his aim is shit. For someone who claims he isn't a rape apologist, he sure keeps hitting the apology bull's eye.

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Richard Dawkins, Again

[Content Note: Sexual violence; rape apologia.]

The thing about movement atheist Richard Dawkins is that he is the worst. And, yesterday, he reminded us once again why he is the worst by engaging in some truly gross rape apologia, while simultaneously disclosing that he is a survivor of sexual abuse:

In a recent interview with the Times magazine, Richard Dawkins attempted to defend what he called "mild pedophilia," which, he says, he personally experienced as a young child and does not believe causes "lasting harm."

Dawkins went on to say that one of his former school masters "pulled me on his knee and put his hand inside my shorts," and that to condemn this "mild touching up" as sexual abuse today would somehow be unfair.

"I am very conscious that you can't condemn people of an earlier era by the standards of ours. Just as we don't look back at the 18th and 19th centuries and condemn people for racism in the same way as we would condemn a modern person for racism, I look back a few decades to my childhood and see things like caning, like mild pedophilia, and can't find it in me to condemn it by the same standards as I or anyone would today," he said.

Plus, he added, though his other classmates also experienced abuse at the hands of this teacher, "I don't think he did any of us lasting harm."
There are a lot of ways to respond to surviving sexual abuse. One of them is to minimize it. That is an understandable (and common) response to sexual abuse, and I am not in the business of policing people's individual response to trauma.

So if Dawkins wants to speak, for himself, about not personally condemning someone who molested him, and say, for himself, that he experienced no lasting harm, that is his right.

But the moment he starts extrapolating that response into a universal application, we've got a problem. It is categorically not his right to audit the lived experiences of other survivors and assert what the effects of surviving abuse have been (or should have been) on their lives.

This idea that anyone who was sexually abused in "an earlier era" doesn't or shouldn't experience lasting harm is implicitly victim-blaming, suggesting that anyone who has experienced lasting harm is weak, or wrong, or lying.

Embedded within it is also an argument that it's not the actual abuse that harms, but culture's response to abuse that harms. That is, anti-rape advocates are to blame—because it's not the actual abuse that causes harm; it's the awareness around abuse that causes harm.

This is a key piece of rape apologia—the idea that it's talking about abuse which traumatizes survivors, rather than the abuse itself. Naturally, no one should be made to disclose or discuss abuse against their will. But processing abuse is a crucial survival strategy for many victims—and, in fact, being denied the opportunity to process, being silenced, is a secondary trauma for many survivors.

Another key piece of rape apologia is the auditing and ranking of survivors of rape and/or the auditing and ranking of various acts of rape itself. Whether it's Republicans trying to redefine the legal definition of rape, Whoopi Goldberg defending Roman Polanski with comments about "rape-rape," the use of minimizing terms like "grey rape," calling rape "a disagreement between two lovers," or any of the other endless examples of language which posits there is some "real, serious, harmful rape" and some other sort of "sorta, kinda, not that bad rape," the idea that certain types of sexual abuse are tolerable is about the most basic rape apologia there is. "Mild pedophilia" is just not a phrase that should even exist, no less be uttered aloud.

The thing is, Richard Dawkins is a child rape apologist. One of the first things I ever noted about Dawkins in this space was his reckoning that a child is "arguably" better off repeatedly raped than raised religious:
In the penultimate chapter of his best-selling book The God Delusion, biologist and world-renowned atheist Richard Dawkins presents his view of religious education, which he explains by way of an anecdote. Following a lecture in Dublin, he recalls, "I was asked what I thought about the widely publicized cases of sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Ireland. I replied that, horrible as sexual abuse no doubt was, the damage was arguably less than the long-term psychological damage inflicted by bringing the child up Catholic in the first place." Lest his readers misunderstand him, or dismiss this rather shocking statement as mere off-the-cuff hyperbole, Dawkins goes on to clarify his position. "I am persuaded," he explains, "that the phrase 'child abuse' is no exaggeration when used to describe what teachers and priests are doing to children whom they encourage to believe in something like the punishment of unshriven mortal sins in an eternal hell."
So, he "can't condemn people of an earlier era by the standards of ours" when it comes to the sexual abuse of children, but he's totes cool with it when it comes to religious upbringing. Priorities. He's got 'em.

It is my personal, individual experience that a Christian upbringing made my surviving sexual abuse even more difficult than it already was. I have real concerns about how certain, ubiquitous, rarely challenged aspects of religion both abet the sexual abuse of children and shame survivors while protecting abusers. This is a subject that desperately needs more attention and public conversation. Setting up "religion" and "rape" in some kind of vile contest for Worst Thing Ever, instead of engaging the intersection at which they interact to target children, isn't a helpful part of that conversation.

But, of course, Dawkins isn't interested in being helpful. He is interested in minimizing the gravity of sexual violence.

If he wants to do that for himself, for his own survival, fine. But he needs to leave the rest of us the hell out of it. The last fucking thing I need is another survivor publicly concern-trolling me for being affected, and offering himself up as a useful tool to the predators who share his loathsome opinion that a little rape ain't so bad.

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And Then This Happened

[Content Note: Misogyny; disablism.]

In my ongoing (and never-ending) series about why this female atheist (*points thumbs at self*) has no interest in movement atheism, I present this exchange, in comments at Libby Anne's place, between Lunch Meat, a self-identified religious woman, and Jack Kolinski, an atheist man who "want[s] to cure religion and [has] written an easy-and-fun-to-read book explaining how everyone can cure themselves and others of this insidious, malevolent mind disease."

screen cap of two comments: Lunch Meat: It's so nice to come across a feminist man on the Internet. Why can't I find more men who believe I must not understand my beliefs if they think my beliefs are demeaning to me? There's just not enough people who tell me what to think. Jack Kolinski: You are so welcome! And you enjoy sarcasm as much as I do even though you're not nearly as good at it. So you think for yourself do you? And most of the women you know do as well? Well aren't you special. Many women (RC, Prot. Orthodox Jew, Mormon, Muslim, et cet. BUT NOT APPARENTLY ALL SEVEN WICCANS! LOL) aren't that fortunate and need someone to shake them out of their imaginary friend fairyland. We might hope to have women like you do that as well assuming they are willing to remove their heads from their asses.

Libby Anne has written extensively about that comment thread, and the dynamic of atheist men full of white knight sexism who want to save religious women from themselves, here. Go read it, because it's really great!

There are a lot (a "small but vocal minority," I'm sure) of atheist men who believe that they need to rescue religious women because they are too stupid or brainwashed or weak or some other charming underestimation to know what is best for themselves. (Protip: When your "feminist" argument is indistinguishable from anti-choice rhetoric, you have derailed from anything resembling feminism.) Obviously, this is objectionable to religious women.

But it is objectionable to me, too. Even though I am an atheist woman who has written about the specific harm I experienced being raised in a particular religious tradition. Because my experience is not universal. And because I am keenly aware of the colonialist and racist dynamics that underwrite much of this white male atheist savior bullshit. And because I am a feminist, and thus I want to give women choices, and trust them to make the best choices for themselves.

I don't have any interest in telling women what they should do, or what they should believe.

Because I don't own women. And neither does Jack Kolinski. Nor any of his oppressively chivalrous brothers.

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None of the Above

A report recently released by researchers at the University of Tennessee at Chattanooga says that six different types of atheists/agnostics have been identified.

I have news for these researchers (who acknowledge that other types are emergent): There are at least seven, because I don't strongly identify with any of the six.

I hew most closely, I suppose, to the "Activist Atheist/Agnostics" group, whose "atheist activism often sprang from other forms of activism and an interest in social justice, like women's rights, LGBT rights, or wealth inequality," except for the fact that I don't do atheist activism, or even participate in movement atheism, for reasons.

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And Then This Happened

[Content Note: Misogyny; harassment; disablist language.]

So, late last month, the Women in Secularism conference got off to a rip-roaring start with an opening lecture by a male speaker (of course), Ron Lindsay, the CEO of the Center for Inquiry, who included in his address his Important Concerns about the concept of male privilege:

I am concerned the concept of privilege may be misapplied in some instances. First, some people think it has dispositive explanatory power in all situations, so, if for example, in a particular situation there are fewer women than men in a given managerial position, and intentional discrimination is ruled out, well, then privilege must be at work. But that's not true; there may be other explanations. The concept of privilege can do some explanatory work at a general level, but in particular, individualized situations, other factors may be more significant. To bring this point home let's consider an example of another broad generalization which is unquestionably true, namely that people with college degrees earn more over their lifetime than those who have only high school diplomas. As I said, as a general matter, this is unquestionably true as statistics have shown this to be the case. Nonetheless in any particular case, when comparing two individuals, one with a high school degree and one with a college degree, the generalization may not hold.

But it's the second misapplication of the concept of privilege that troubles me most. I'm talking about the situation where the concept of privilege is used to try to silence others, as a justification for saying, "shut up and listen." Shut up, because you're a man and you cannot possibly know what it's like to experience x, y, and z, and anything you say is bound to be mistaken in some way, but, of course, you're too blinded by your privilege even to realize that.

This approach doesn't work. It certainly doesn't work for me.

...By the way, with respect to the "Shut up and listen" meme, I hope it's clear that it's the "shut up" part that troubles me, not the "listen" part. Listening is good. People do have different life experiences, and many women have had experiences and perspectives from which men can and should learn. But having had certain experiences does not automatically turn one into an authority to whom others must defer. Listen, listen carefully, but where appropriate, question and engage.
This was such a typical, tiresome, garbage lecture from a secular dude, who has yet to learn the basic principle of communication that if you're talking (i.e. not shutting up) then you aren't listening, and who doesn't believe women are experts on our own lived experiences (!!!), that it would hardly merit comment, except for the entirely predictable fall-out that followed when women rightly objected.

Harassment. Threats. Harassment. Threats. Non-apologies. Harassment. Threats. Condescending lectures. Harassment. Threats. Etc.

Rebecca Watson details everything here, including the response from the Center for Inquiry Board of Directors, after "dozens of letters (including one signed by the majority of Women in Secularism speakers) were sent to the Center for Inquiry's Board of Directors, begging them to do something to restore CFI's reputation as a humanist organization that cares about women and their ongoing harassment." The response, in its entirety:
Center for Inquiry Board of Directors Statement on the CEO and the Women in Secularism 2 Conference

The mission of the Center for Inquiry is to foster a secular society based on science, reason, freedom of inquiry, and humanist values.

The Center for Inquiry, including its CEO, is dedicated to advancing the status of women and promoting women's issues, and this was the motivation for its sponsorship of the two Women in Secularism conferences. The CFI Board wishes to express its unhappiness with the controversy surrounding the recent Women in Secularism Conference 2.

CFI believes in respectful debate and dialogue. We appreciate the many insights and varied opinions communicated to us. Going forward, we will endeavor to work with all elements of the secular movement to enhance our common values and strengthen our solidarity as we struggle together for full equality and respect for women around the world.
Oh. They're "unhappy with the controversy." Not unhappy with their CEO being a condescending, mansplaining annoyfuck who scolds women who ask men to examine their privilege, but with "the controversy," which was caused by women who took issue with their CEO being a condescending, mansplaining annoyfuck who scolded them in the opening address of a conference called "Women in Secularism." PERFECT.

Why this female atheist isn't a part of movement atheism, part one million and twelve.

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Richard Dawkins Takes Brave Stance Against Racism and Sexism

[Content Note: Racism; violence; stalking; misogyny]

Richard Dawkins -- whom many of you know from his Dear Muslima letter wherein he blatantly appropriated the violent oppression of Muslim women in an attempt to silence an American feminist he disagreed with while at the same time making the racist assumption than "Muslim women" and "American women" are mutually exclusive groups -- has done a complete 180 today in announcing on Twitter that he cares about racism and sexism after all...

...as long as it's racism and sexism directed against white men, and as long as the "racism" and "sexism" on display are things like pointing out the race and sex of the privileged person, rather than normalizing privileged classes like 'white' and 'male' as the default and therefore without need of descriptors:

"insufferable smug white male making snide comments in loafers." Racism & sexism are fine, so long as they point in the right direction!
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) May 24, 2013

Learn to think clearly and use language precisely. You may JUSTIFY racism & sexism towards white males. But it's still racist & sexist.
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) May 24, 2013

So many people incapable of drawing an elementary distinction: between racism and INSTITUTIONAL racism. Probably studied sociology.
— Richard Dawkins (@RichardDawkins) May 24, 2013

@richarddawkins It is sexist and also irrational to judge white males just because they are white males.
— Blue Sky (@EarthenBlueSky7) May 24, 2013
I'm sure Dawkins will explain to us at some point in the future how pointing out that someone is a member of one or more privileged classes is exactly the same as the marginalization that the members who are not part of those privileged classes face as part of their daily lives.

And maybe while he's at it he can explain why he, an adult white man, is immune from social condemnation for speaking positively about casual drug use and for using social media to post violent words and imagery, even while our society uses those things as an excuse to condemn young black men like Trayvon Martin, and how that isn't a function of his white male privilege.

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It's probably a total coincidence that we had this exchange yesterday:

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Richard Dawkins Remains Deliberately Ignorant

[Content Note: Hostility to Reproductive Rights, IVF]

I'm just going to leave these here. (As screenshots because the Twitter embed is acting funky at the moment.)

Thinking in unfamiliar ways is one of the things academics do.
If you don't like that, hesitate before following an academic on Twitter (Link.)
As D Barash pointed out, if a certain edible berry had strong contraceptive effect on our ancestors,
we'd be phobic about it as if poison (Link.)
If our Pleistocene ancestors had easy contraception,
would natural selection have weakened sex lust at the expense of lust to give birth? (Link.)

I could point out that this line of thinking only makes sense if you assume without evidence that early humans treasured a "reproduce all the time, as much as possible" paradigm, rather than -- as many humans have demonstrably done at many times throughout history -- seeking a balance between quantity of birthed children as well as quality of upbringing so that the children are more likely to survive to adulthood and accrue the necessary skills to survive as adults long enough to live their own lives, parent their own children, and build their own societies. And that these "reproduce constantly" humans which supposedly existed are therefore (again, without evidence) our evolutionary ancestors rather than their early human counterparts who reproduced at a lower rate but nurtured their offspring more effectively to ensure a higher survival rate. 

I could also point out that there is no reason to assume without evidence that early humans didn't face the same concerns regarding the balance between adult providers capable of acquiring resources and child consumers incapable of fending for themselves that we still face today and which still drives many of us to adopt reproductive strategies other than "bear all the children", and that early humans didn't therefore devise their own reproductive strategies designed to cope with these challenges in order to ensure their own survival in the moment as opposed to some kind of "long-game" strategic attempt to position themselves as the ancestors of people on Twitter in the year 2013 A.D. 

I could additionally point out that the concept of contraception is not a modern one; as far back as we have historical records to show, humans have been deeply concerned with controlling their reproduction. Abortions are not a new thing; hormonal methods of birth control are not new things; barrier methods of birth control are not new things; rhythm methods of birth control are not new things; reproductive abstinence is not a new thing. I could point out how foolish it is to assume that these methods only came into vogue with the existence of historical records, and that everyone who existed pre-historical recordings simply felt completely differently about the importance of reproductive control than most of their descendents did. (But their attitudes toward porn were obviously handed down to their Twitter descendents.)

I could perhaps point out that assuming our ancestors were stupid -- so stupid that they could not note cause and effect and would instead suspiciously treat a hormonal birth control berry as "poison" -- is a common error among people who have chosen to other our ancestors as fundamentally inferior to themselves, and that this error is commonly rife among (for example) religionists who seek to claim that the Bible must be divinely inspired because how else could a bunch of backwards pre-historical fools notice that people need to keep their blood inside their bodies if they want to survive? And I could point out that Richard Dawkins, as a professional atheist, would almost certainly have encountered this very same appeal to the supposed profound ignorance of our ancestors.

But I will instead point out only this: I am utterly amused at Dawkins' claim that he is an "academic" and that therefore he thinks in "unfamiliar ways" to his inferiors on Twitter.

Richard Dawkins, your way of thinking isn't unfamiliar to me, it's contemptible. I say this because you continue to deliberately choose to remain blissfully ignorant of the things you opine on as though they are nothing more than cutesy little brain-teasers even though you could easily research these topics and despite the fact that you know for certain that your ignorant opinings on birth control and IVF -- which you continue to trollishly repeat for attention and controversy -- adversely affect the lives of the women (and others with uteri) around you, as we daily struggle to maintain a hold on our right to control our own reproduction.

Please do us all a favor and shut the fuck up. If you absolutely must spout evo-psych bullshit, grab a hairbrush and American Idol that shit into your bathroom mirror. You'll get less Twitter drama out of it, but at least you'll still have your favorite audience.

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